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OpenBSD Journal
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By gwyllion () on
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By Stelios Sfakianakis () on
I would like though some more details about the threading in OpenBSD. Do you have any links about the difference between lib_c and libpthread (except the name, of course!)?
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By Brad () brad at comstyle dot com on mailto:brad at comstyle dot com
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By Chas () on
I want binary updates, but I've become resigned that they would never exist. This really shocked me:
There used to be an OpenBSD binary patch site at http://www.openbsd.org.mx/~santana/binpatch.html, but it appears to have gone dark.
I liked their system. It would be a shame to duplicate effort.
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By Alex Farber () on
I run OpenBSD (both -stable and -current) and FreeBSD (4-stable) for fun at home and what I enjoy at OpenBSD's ports is:
Many FreeBSD ports don't build as non-root (or do I do something wrong?) and are sometimes broken.
Also great interview, thanks
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By Alex Farber () on
Maybe I need to reread the docs again though....
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By tedu () on
subpackages are pieces of a larger whole. like plugins for xmms. you don't need all the plugins for xmms to work. the mp3 player can be added later without relinking or compiling.
By Anonymous Coward () on
Just a quick bitch: Damnit losing developers like Provos and Dug Song really sucks.
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By Anonymous Coward () on
By gwyllion () on
I don't think there is any problem between Dub Song and other OpenBSD developers. So I don't think he's lost as a developer.
By click46 () click46@genmay.net on mailto:click46@genmay.net
By j0rd () mits_rox@OHNOS.hotmail.com on http://j0rd.ath.cx/
By Peter Werner () on
the str* functions are for c strings, memcpy can be used on strings, sure, but it shares the same problem with strncpy that was one of the things fixed with strlcpy in that memcpy will copy null bytes to the end of the buffer. oh, but thats not a problem, cause each buffer used to hold every string is exactly the right size in dreppers world. perhaps if drepper used functions with sane and easily understood semantics the existing security problems in gnu libc would be more evident from his high horse.
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By djm () on
Portable OpenSSH drags half of OpenBSD's libc around with it to make up for shortcomings and bugs in various OS' libc, glib (friend to libgtk) implements the strl* functions, but gives them funny names. I haven't looked, but sudo probably uses copies of OpenBSD strl* too.
So Linux users have the worst of all possible worlds in this area: the bloat of multiple implementations, the risk that someone is going to roll their own broken version and the lack of general availability of a superior set of functions.
Oh, and:
1561228 /lib/libc-2.3.2.so (glibc)
657196 /usr/lib/libc.so.30.3 (OpenBSD libc)
(This isn't a completely fair comparison, but it will be interesting to watch this as Citrus, et al land)
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By veins () chehad_g@epitech.net on http://etud.epita.fr/~chehad_g/
obviously, he's not been reading man pages :-)
following the thread i read something like "...sure they are of great use to quickly plug an overflow while searching for the bug...". i just don't get it, if the application is bugged anyways, is it preferable to realize there's a bug because an application is being passed truncated strings, or because you're no longer the only root on your system ?
using strl* functions won't hide the fact that there is a problem as he says, the problem will most likely still show up but with a potentially less dramatical consequence.
Fortunately, *BSD are not inspired by RedHat :)
By bob () obsdj FOOOSPAM 2fm FOOOSPAM de on mailto:obsdj FOOOSPAM 2fm FOOOSPAM de
know one if the cgd is going in 3.5 or 3.6?
i found http://www.imrryr.org/~elric/cgd/
and the patch for the kernel und user land
http://www.stanford.edu/~tedu/cgd.html
is wher a "normal" way to speed up the intigration?
(with mony or testing time...)
best bob
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By Anonymous Coward () on
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By bob () on
is also a posibilty it is bevor my obsd time.
(using obsd just since 3.2/3.3)
best bob
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By Anonymous Coward () on
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By bob () on
best bob
By Goatmaster () on
Don't get me wrong, I love OpenBSD, but some of the developers could really use some lessons on diplomacy. Or at least lessons on not being pricks. OpenBSD has benefitted from the energy infused by the rapid growth of Linux... not the other way around. It behooves one to develop good and useful relationships with people from other camps methinks.
Oh well, it's not like the developers care. That's why Linux will probably always be bigger.
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By Anonymous Coward () on
That is the best crap I heard all day.
Go back to leenoox troll.
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By Anonymous Coward () on
Just 'cos someone disagrees with you does not make them a troll. I may have been insensitive and provocative, but no more than the interviewee I referred to.
You have merely proven that you are a person of small mind. Enjoy it.
By Anil () avsm@ on mailto:avsm@
By Marc Espie () espie@openbsd.org on mailto:espie@openbsd.org
And you have absolutely no clue as to what relationship I enjoy with people from various development groups.
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By Anonymous Coward () on
And yes, I have heard that about Drepper, and sometimes in a much harsher tone.
As far as your relationship, dude... you're right, I don't know, but if you always come off as you do in the interview, I would be surprised if the balance of these relationships is in the positive.