Contributed by phessler on from the reboot-bad dept.
The aac(4) driver was also disabled in the GENERIC kernel.
UPDATE: New contact information
"We've been trying to get more Adaptec AAC RAID documentation out of Adaptec for nearly 4 months, so that we can add RAID management (ie. the ability to recover a RAID array without rebooting and doing it in the BIOS) and it is incredible how much we are being dragged around. We are NOT getting the answers we need. Some of you may remember how this affected back a few years ago Adaptec refused to give us documentation for their SCSI controllers, and this slowed the quality of our ahc(4) and ahd(4) support. We let our users know who to complain to, Adaptec listened, and we had two boxes of *complete* documentation a few days later. This time, I am strongly considering removing aac(4) support from the upcoming OpenBSD 3.7 release. On Monday morning I will make that decision, and by Tuesday it will be final since our source tree for OpenBSD 3.7 will likely be tagged and branched. If you feel strongly about this, please let doug_richardson@adaptec.com know how you feel about that. If he does not get back to me soon on this, I am also prepared to give out hand out phone number to people who have more than a few of these controllers. What is the matter with these companies! I can point to more than A MILLION DOLLARS worth of aac(4) hardware running -- on OpenBSD -- and yet they REFUSE to let their customers use this hardware as it is supposed to work! What the hell is the matter with them?! Why won't they EXPLAIN why they act against the needs of their customers in this way?"Adaptec responds, and Theo responds back.
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Theo adds:
"When you mail Adaptec, please ... -- if your mail is especially good, cc or bcc me -- if your mail is about a particulary large number of controllers, cc me -- if they reply with something you find offensive which you can translate into "we don't care about our customers", make sure i see it. Thanks."----
"Since the original Adaptec guy Doug has blocked his mail, here is the email address of the next person at Adaptec who is involved in this. He has also previously indicated that he would be involved in any decision to provide documentation on the aac RAID management interface. Marty Turner marty_turner@adaptec.com Product Manager Adaptec, Inc. (919) 287-2045 Sorry Marty, but you are only getting comments from your customers."
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By Anonymous Coward (66.131.207.182) on
I'm sure Doug is off this weekend, so I hope Theo can at least give him some more time to think about the possible huge loss[es] they may face and some time for him to get more clarifying emails...
Just my $0.02
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By phessler (64.173.147.27) on
By Anthony Roberts (68.145.103.21) on
It has resulted in big, aloof vendors paying attention to what can only be called a niche OS, and the noteriety from the FSF award only increases the lobbying power.
IMO talking about customers with lots of Adaptec hardware is the right strategy. Shareholders don't want to see millions of dollars of sales disappear over a few thousand dollars of documentation.
By Anonymous Coward (68.165.27.173) on
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By Nate (65.95.243.105) on
Or at least that is how I read it.
By Anonymous Coward (66.131.207.182) on
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By Anonymous Coward (80.68.82.20) on
... while talking to aimspam1.adaptec.com.:
>>> RCPT To:<doug_richardson@adaptec.com>
<<< 550 <doug_richardson@adaptec.com>: Recipient address rejected: No such user (doug_richardson@adaptec.com)
550 5.1.1 <doug_richardson@adaptec.com>... User unknown
Unfortunately, I think he may have done.
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By Chris (24.76.170.207) on
By phessler (64.173.147.27) on
By Chris (24.116.27.95) on
By Anonymous Coward (81.64.227.144) on
Now we won't have a chance anymore for our emails to be read by adaptec. They'll filter everything (if they don't, new emails will be lost in the masse).
By Anonymous Coward (203.173.155.3) on
And the bonus is that it makes OpenBSD supporters look like The Bad Guys(tm).
By Eddie Coca-Cola (200.203.30.44) on
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By Kevin R (198.53.198.77) on
This post, where he claims to work for microsoft, and claims unix is "just like linux illegal because of a violation of patents"
Another post, this ones good, where he claims "anoncvs.ca.openbsd.org (running openbsd) was hacked."
Here's a Google search of Posts, if anyones interested.
Although thats not to say he didn't do it. I'm just pointing out previous problems we've had with this person. If adaptec really was mailbombed, the offenders ip is right here on undeadly, it shouldn't be a problem to track this person down.
Kevin R
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By henning (80.86.183.87) on
works fine on amd64 too.
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By Anonymous Coward (24.127.0.74) on
By any chance, does anyone know if the HP/Compaq SmartArray controllers are powered by LSI chips? I know there are different models and versionf of the SmartArray controllers. I'm not that knowledgable on all the different models, but I was wondering if they were all rebranded LSI Logic cards.
We have a ton of HP/Compaq servers (2 x ML370's, 5 x DL360's) here with SmartArray controllers (all running MS Windows at the moment) which I wouldn't mind using OpenBSD on as a secure web server. Hmmm, I just need to a) wait for OpenBSD 3.8 for the raidctl function and b) decommission one of those servers so I can try installing OpenBSD on one of them. The DL360's are pretty nice machines.
By Bob Beck (68.148.128.240) beck@openbsd.org on
I have a bunch of these and they work very well.
they're a rebadged LSI megaraid card. they're easy to
get from Dell.
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By mj (70.113.83.252) on
By Anonymous Coward (81.64.227.144) on
Is, as for RAID devices, LSI the best option ? What else (in case this manufacturer's products couldn't be provided by our resseller) ?
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By Michael (84.204.56.99) on
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By Anthony Roberts (68.145.103.21) on
That level of publicity makes things happen.
By Anonymous Coward (62.255.32.13) on
Is there a hardware compatibility list anywhere on the OpenBSD website? It would be really helpful, when spec-ing out new systems, to be able to refer to a list of hardware components which detailed both recommended hardware as well as hardware to avoid.
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By Anonymous Coward (62.255.32.13) on
I apologize; I found it right after I posted 8-(
(note to self: don't post on the internet when badly hung over)
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