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Update from h2k6, the OpenBSD hardware hackathon

Contributed by deanna on from the hardware-hackers dept.

marco writes:
The hardware hackathon is in full swing. After all kinds of transportation drama due to heavy storms in portugal all participants have made it to the event. Currently a look around the room yields the following names:

UPDATE: more pics from marco -

"This was at the dinner table last night. We got outlouded by the table next to us; we should have brought beck :-)"

  • jordan
  • dlg
  • kettenis
  • deraadt
  • gwk
  • dim
  • krw
  • jsg
  • mbalmer
  • miod
  • grange
  • matthieu
  • uwe
  • marco

The folks are working on a plethora of hardware related things. A few examples are:

  • grange committed a new driver for IBM serveraid controllers. Not ready for prime time but good enough for test.

  • Jordan, kettenis and marco are doings all kinds of crazy acpi stuff.

  • dlg and krw are working on a new method for offering more openings to scsi drives in the scsi midlayer.

  • uwe is working on making his new shiny camera work on OpenBSD.

  • Matthieu has been commiting the new x.org code.

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Comments

  1. By Anonymous Coward (216.220.225.229) on

    I'm glad the CD purchases and donations can help fund this kind of face-to-face development.

  2. By Peter van Oord van der Vlies (82.161.29.165) zork@cgg.nu on

    The IBM raidcontroller driver , for which controller is it written ?
    I have a couple of machines to test on....

    Comments

    1. By Brad (216.138.195.228) brad at comstyle dot com on

      > The IBM raidcontroller driver , for which controller is it written ?
      > I have a couple of machines to test on....

      The driver will be targetted at ServeRAID 1 - 7 series adapters. ServeRAID 8 and newer will need the aac(4) driver, though with additional changes for the newer firmware.

      Comments

      1. By ahafey (82.69.184.245) alex@hafey.org on

        > > The IBM raidcontroller driver , for which controller is it written ?
        > > I have a couple of machines to test on....
        >
        > The driver will be targetted at ServeRAID 1 - 7 series adapters. ServeRAID 8 and newer will need the aac(4) driver, though with additional changes for the newer firmware.

        I have a ServeRAID 3HB sitting in the draw if you want one for testing.

      2. By cml (24.196.48.198) on

        > > The IBM raidcontroller driver , for which controller is it written ?
        > > I have a couple of machines to test on....
        >
        > The driver will be targetted at ServeRAID 1 - 7 series adapters. ServeRAID 8 and newer will need the aac(4) driver, though with additional changes for the newer firmware.

        I have a stack of 4lx's that can be donated if there's a need.

        Comments

        1. By Brad (74.96.120.211) brad at comstyle dot com on

          > > > The IBM raidcontroller driver , for which controller is it written ? > > > I have a couple of machines to test on.... > > > > The driver will be targetted at ServeRAID 1 - 7 series adapters. ServeRAID 8 and newer will need the aac(4) driver, though with additional changes for the newer firmware. > > I have a stack of 4lx's that can be donated if there's a need.

          Please keep this page in mind... http://www.openbsd.org/want.html

          Comments

          1. By ahafey (82.69.184.245) on

            > The IBM raidcontroller driver , for which controller is it written ?
            > I have a couple of machines to test on....
            >
            > The driver will be targetted at ServeRAID 1 - 7 series adapters. ServeRAID 8 and newer will need the aac(4) driver, though with additional changes for the newer firmware.
            >
            > I have a stack of 4lx's that can be donated if there's a need.
            >
            > Please keep this page in mind... http://www.openbsd.org/want.html

            Money put where mouth was. RAID controller on the way.

            I'll continue scanning the want.html and cross-reference eBay to best bang-for-buck effect on a bimonthly (pay day x 2 to not upset wife) basis.

            If thirty quid + postage per two months can make a difference in hardware support then I'm up for it.

            Cheers,
            Alex.

            P.S. As an example there are 16 ServeRAID cards on eBay UK in the 15 to 30 quid range!

  3. By Anonymous Coward (200.142.128.16) on

    Any news about Qlogic QLA2x00 drivers?

  4. By Adam Petaccia (152.13.52.214) on

    What kind of X.org changes?

    Comments

    1. By Anonymous Coward (88.138.189.74) on

      > What kind of X.org changes?

      look here: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/xenocara

      Comments

      1. By Anonymous Coward (24.226.123.233) on

        > > What kind of X.org changes?
        >
        > look here: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/xenocara

        Wow, developers are working on a X.Org 7.2RC2 port? Interesting..

        Comments

  5. By sng (67.171.149.18) on

    USB missile launchers?

    You *know* you want them. :)

    Comments

    1. By Anonymous Coward (70.179.123.124) on

      > USB missile launchers?
      >
      > You *know* you want them. :)

      You're late to the party:

      http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=116325605503391&w=2

  6. By ubt (68.227.41.220) on

    is anyone working on getting the new netbsd bluetooth stack in?

    Comments

    1. By Anonymous Coward (193.137.208.250) on

      > is anyone working on getting the new netbsd bluetooth stack in?

      nope

    2. By Dunceor (192.16.134.66) on

      > is anyone working on getting the new netbsd bluetooth stack in?

      Since I do not use NetBSD I haven't tested it. How does the new NetBSD Bluetooth stack preform? I was looking at it a few months back and it looked good but what I could tell it still had a while to go.
      Maybe if I get time I'll try it out and see how it works during the weekend =)

    3. By henkjan (213.136.0.33) henkjan@agteresch.nl on

      > is anyone working on getting the new netbsd bluetooth stack in?

      Joshua Stein started working on it. http://jcs.org/notaweblog/2006-09-27/

      Comments

      1. By Anonymous Coward (149.9.0.27) on

        > > is anyone working on getting the new netbsd bluetooth stack in?
        >
        > Joshua Stein started working on it. http://jcs.org/notaweblog/2006-09-27/

        I just would like to point out that a better cd9660 or udf support would be propably even much better....
        cd9660 is still not complete..... (just in case somebody wanna spend his/her spare time)

        Comments

        1. By Anonymous Coward (203.217.30.85) on


          > I just would like to point out that a better cd9660 or udf support would
          > be propably even much better....

          better for you perhaps.

          > cd9660 is still not complete..... (just in case somebody wanna spend
          > his/her spare time)

          It might help if you mentioned what you think is missing...

          Comments

          1. By Anonymous Coward (81.169.183.122) on

            >
            > > I just would like to point out that a better cd9660 or udf support would
            > > be propably even much better....
            >
            > better for you perhaps.
            >
            > > cd9660 is still not complete..... (just in case somebody wanna spend
            > > his/her spare time)
            >
            > It might help if you mentioned what you think is missing...
            >

            Just one Example:
            You`ll not find an explantation for the "norrip"-Flag mount_cd9660
            provides. If you wanna have a real life example lend "neon genesis evangelion"-DVDs and do simply mount them 8yes they`re formated with cd9660).

            I found a explantation for the norrip-Flag here:
            http://fuse4bsd.creo.hu/localcgi/man-cgi.cgi?mount_cd9660+8

            Also man 8 mount does not list this but OpenBSD seams to support it `couse I did saw it.

            It`s just one thing....

            Comments

            1. By Anonymous Coward (70.179.123.124) on

              > Also man 8 mount does not list this but OpenBSD seams to support it `couse I did saw it.
              >
              > It`s just one thing....

              It's just one patch...which you don't seem to care about making...

  7. By Anonymous Coward (74.114.186.166) on

    Anyone got an ip for mirrors.protection.cx? I'm not finding a dns server that knows.

    Comments

    1. By Anonymous Coward (151.188.247.104) on

      > Anyone got an ip for mirrors.protection.cx? I'm not finding a dns server that knows.

      I'm running into the same thing.

      Comments

      1. By Anonymous Coward (216.62.11.163) on

        > > Anyone got an ip for mirrors.protection.cx? I'm not finding a dns server that knows.
        >
        > I'm running into the same thing.
        >

        209.242.20.18

        The server needs a host header, so dump it in your /etc/hosts

        Comments

        1. By Anonymous Coward (74.114.186.166) on

          > > > Anyone got an ip for mirrors.protection.cx? I'm not finding a dns server that knows.
          > >
          > > I'm running into the same thing.
          > >
          >
          > 209.242.20.18
          >
          > The server needs a host header, so dump it in your /etc/hosts

          Thanks, although it seems to be fixed now.

  8. By Sevan / Venture37 (217.22.94.73) venture37 # hotmail.com on www.geeklan.co.uk

    Sexy!:
    http://mirrors.protection.cx/~deanna/h2k6/simg_2200.jpg

    Someone dragged all that to the hackathon??? ;)

    Comments

    1. By Anonymous Coward (200.142.128.16) on

      > Sexy!:
      > http://mirrors.protection.cx/~deanna/h2k6/simg_2200.jpg
      >
      > Someone dragged all that to the hackathon??? ;)

      Sexy? Looks like a christmas tree...

      Comments

      1. By Sevan / Venture37 (217.22.94.73) venture37 # hotmail dont com on www.geeklan.co.uk

        > > Sexy!:
        > > http://mirrors.protection.cx/~deanna/h2k6/simg_2200.jpg
        > >
        > > Someone dragged all that to the hackathon??? ;)
        >
        > Sexy? Looks like a christmas tree...

        Yeah, but it's what you do with it that counts ;)

  9. Comments

    1. By Anonymous Coward (74.13.44.107) on

      > At the risk of sounding a bit anal, I'd like to point out that 2k6 means 2600, not 2006 as was intended.
      >
      > For example:
      > http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadgets/resistors/resistor.htm

      Perhaps for you, but not for everyone. 26k means 26000 to most people that use k to denote 1000, thus they would have 2k mean 2000. To make 2006 one need simply add 6 to the end, 2k6.

      Perhaps you can tell me, what date is this: 02/03/07

      Some would read it one way, some another.

      Comments

      1. By Anonymous Coward (87.79.237.121) on

        > > At the risk of sounding a bit anal, I'd like to point out that 2k6 means 2600, not 2006 as was intended.

        This is correct, but try to teach OpenBSD developers
        correctness... I tried to get them to the wonderful world
        of ISO/IEC 60027-2 binary præfices (Kibi, Mebi, etc.),
        and they plainly refused to listen to me.

        > Perhaps for you, but not for everyone.

        For "everyone", Microsoft Outlook is an MUA. So what?
        You should know that the majority doesn't necessarily
        imply the truth. This is a democracy's major fault,
        and people like you tend to forget that quickly. A sy-
        stem is only good as long as you know its faults.

        The original poster is correct, and 2k6 means 2600.
        IIRC either I or someone else were pointing that out
        when this started in "2k1".

        Comments

        1. By Chris (142.132.30.64) on

          > > > At the risk of sounding a bit anal, I'd like to point out that 2k6 means 2600, not 2006 as was intended.
          >
          > This is correct, but try to teach OpenBSD developers
          > correctness... I tried to get them to the wonderful world
          > of ISO/IEC 60027-2 binary præfices (Kibi, Mebi, etc.),
          > and they plainly refused to listen to me.
          >
          > > Perhaps for you, but not for everyone.
          >
          > For "everyone", Microsoft Outlook is an MUA. So what?
          > You should know that the majority doesn't necessarily
          > imply the truth. This is a democracy's major fault,
          > and people like you tend to forget that quickly. A sy-
          > stem is only good as long as you know its faults.
          >
          > The original poster is correct, and 2k6 means 2600.
          > IIRC either I or someone else were pointing that out
          > when this started in "2k1".

          Date formats are not an observable fact from the scientific realm, but a convention. So what you say is nonsense. You're simply trying to assert that "truth" decreed by a small group of people is more legitimate than the "truth" decided upon by a large group. Which is especially ironic, since when the OpenBSD people say 2k1 means 2001, they're doing exactly what it is you are trying to defend.

          Comments

          1. By Dunceor (192.16.134.66) on

            OMG, this is so worthless to argue about.
            Be happy that there are a hackathon and enjoy the fixes in the code and stop caring about the name of the hackathon.

        2. By Anonymous Coward (62.48.4.41) on

          > This is correct, but try to teach OpenBSD developers
          > correctness... I tried to get them to the wonderful world
          > of ISO/IEC 60027-2 binary præfices (Kibi, Mebi, etc.),
          > and they plainly refused to listen to me.

          Language doesn't care about standards or correctness. "Kibi" and "Mebi" sound so silly, most giggling 12 year olds would feel lame using them.

          So, even if the reason for introducing new terms in this case may be legitimate, the piss-poor choice of words suggested make the whole thing a joke. Dismissed.

          "This is the language you will not be hearing tonight."
          -- George Carlin, "Offensive Language" on
          "Parental Advisory: Explicit Lyrics"

          Comments

          1. By Anonymous Coward (74.114.186.166) on

            > > This is correct, but try to teach OpenBSD developers
            > > correctness... I tried to get them to the wonderful world
            > > of ISO/IEC 60027-2 binary præfices (Kibi, Mebi, etc.),
            > > and they plainly refused to listen to me.
            >
            > So, even if the reason for introducing new terms in this case may
            > legitimate, the piss-poor choice of words suggested make the whole
            > thing a joke. Dismissed.

            Good for you, you figured it out!

    2. By tobiasu (84.57.161.43) on

      > At the risk of sounding a bit anal, I'd like to point out that 2k6 means 2600, not 2006 as was intended.

      in a mathematical sense: 2 * 1000 * 6 == 12,000
      or in y2k style: 2 * 1000 + 6 == 2006
      in electronics however: 2600 Ohm == 2.6k Ohm which is certainly not 2k6 Ohm, because that's an invalid term unless you meant it in the mathematical sense above.

      >
      > For example:
      > http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadgets/resistors/resistor.htm


      Comments

      1. By Anonymous Coward (219.90.243.98) on


        > in electronics however: 2600 Ohm == 2.6k Ohm which is certainly not 2k6 Ohm, because that's an invalid term unless you meant it in the mathematical sense above.

        You've never seen a resistor before, have you?

        Comments

        1. By Anonymous Coward (128.171.90.200) on

          >
          > > in electronics however: 2600 Ohm == 2.6k Ohm which is certainly not 2k6 Ohm, because that's an invalid term unless you meant it in the mathematical sense above.
          >
          > You've never seen a resistor before, have you?

          2.6k is 2600 is 2k6

          the reason the k is shifted to the middle with resisters hails back to the time of photocopies, where an unintended dot could turn 26k into 2.6k

          Anyway, we all know what was intended by h2k2

    3. By Chris (142.132.30.64) on

      > At the risk of sounding a bit anal, I'd like to point out that 2k6 means 2600, not 2006 as was intended.
      >
      > For example:
      > http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadgets/resistors/resistor.htm

      I don't remember the OpenBSD people stating anywhere that they were referring to dates by the standard used with resistors.

    4. By tedu (69.12.168.114) on

      > At the risk of sounding a bit anal, I'd like to point out that 2k6 means 2600, not 2006 as was intended.
      >
      > For example:
      > http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadgets/resistors/resistor.htm

      what do resistors have to do with openbsd? nothing.

      Comments

      1. By Anonymous Coward (128.171.90.200) on

        > what do resistors have to do with openbsd? nothing.

        all the machines I run OpenBSD on have resistors

    5. By Otto Moerbeek (87.210.142.234) otto@drijf.net on http://www.drijf.net

      To this nonsense there is only reply: resistance is futile

      Comments

      1. By juhe (88.148.219.252) on

        I'll check back on 2k10 and post a remarkable comment.
        Now that's something for a shorthard. AYBABTU. Ha-ha-ha!

        PS. The 2kXX-notation is working fine for 0x64 years.
        So let's SERIOUSLY complain just after that, OK?

  10. By falso (81.193.127.45) falsovsky@gmail.com on

    Anyone tried to build xenocara?

    I'm always getting the same error...

    # make build
    "Makefile", line 96: Could not find bsd.xorg.mk
    Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue

    Is there any special thing need to be done before running make?
    The README doesnt say anything.

    Comments

    1. By Matthieu Herrb (213.41.176.184) on

      > Anyone tried to build xenocara?
      >
      > I'm always getting the same error...
      >
      > # make build
      > "Makefile", line 96: Could not find bsd.xorg.mk
      > Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
      >
      > Is there any special thing need to be done before running make?
      > The README doesnt say anything.

      Obviously you're not running a current enough -current.
      So trying to build xenocara now is probably a waste of your time.
      Wait until its officially announced as ready.

  11. By Kian (71.227.220.29) kian.mohageri@gmail.com on http://www.zampanosbits.com

    http://mirrors.protection.cx/~deanna/h2k6_update/7.html

    Mmmmmmmm... What exactly IS that?

    Comments

    1. By Anonymous Coward (85.241.130.248) on

      > http://mirrors.protection.cx/~deanna/h2k6_update/7.html
      >
      > Mmmmmmmm... What exactly IS that?

      Octopus. Was very yummy.

    2. By Anonymous Coward (24.226.123.233) on

      > http://mirrors.protection.cx/~deanna/h2k6_update/7.html
      >
      > Mmmmmmmm... What exactly IS that?

      Don't people eat pizza anymore?

      Comments

      1. By Anonymous Coward (85.241.136.101) on

        > Don't people eat pizza anymore?

        pizza is gay

    3. By Anonymous Coward (216.19.2.18) on

      > http://mirrors.protection.cx/~deanna/h2k6_update/7.html
      >
      > Mmmmmmmm... What exactly IS that?

      Testical

  12. By Didier (88.207.215.85) on

    Hello,
    I noticed that there were lots of acpi work and saw some latest changes in the arch/amd64/conf/{GENERIC,GENERIC.MP} files.
    Sadly, I'm on the road for some while and have no amd64 machine around to test it myself.
    On the "amd64", when acpi "is enabled" in the config files:
    1) is acpi working with standard kernel (/bsd)
    and
    2) the most important ;-), is it starting to work with the mp kernel (/bsd.mp)?
    Has someone already tried the latest amd64 acpi changes with a "halt -p"?

    And last but not least ... thanks a lot for your great hackathon work!

    Thanks for the feedback!

    Comments

    1. By Anonymous Coward (192.18.1.9) on

      > Has someone already tried the latest amd64 acpi changes with a "halt -p"?

      One my friend has UP amd64 machine with latest -current. And he says
      that ``halt -p'' has started working.

      Don't know whether he has erased "disabled" keyword from his config or
      not though.

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