Contributed by jose on from the next-release dept.
Theo de Raadt [deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org]:
We have just activated pre-orders for the OpenBSD 3.5 release, which will be released and start shipping May 1, 2004.
There is a new 3-CD set, a new t-shirt, and a new poster which can be ordered from
http://www.openbsd.org/orders.html
There is also a new (skit and) song which you can get to at
http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html
The skit & song is a parody/allegory of the VRRP mess that Cisco and IETF have landed the community in, and how we circumvented this problem by inventing the CARP protocol. A commentary on this issue can also be found there.
A summary of what is coming in 3.5 is at
http://www.openbsd.org/35.html
(Please bear with us, since this document is actively being worked on by the developers :)
A much more detailed summary is at:
http://www.openbsd.org/plus.html
Please keep in mind that this project is completely funded by CD sales and donations from our user community. We hope that your generosity continues, because in a few months we will once again be holding one of our famously inventive and productive week-long hackathons ... and perhaps SMP and some other nice surprises in the release following...
Thank you."
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By Alan Post () aisa@cybermesa.com on mailto:aisa@cybermesa.com
Anyone else do this?
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By Anonymous Coward () on
What is the status of bringing on 802.11{a,g}? I know it is going to take someone reverse-engineering the hardware, any progress from any of the open source community?
I have a Proxim a/b/g card, as well as an Orinoco B card. I have not tried it on the latest snapshot, but I assume there is no a/g support yet.
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By grey () on
I really don't know what to tell you beyond that. Having a binary only HAL layer to deal with makes the atheros 'open source' support contradictory. It's not in OpenBSD's style to settle for such an implementation, particularly as there is focus on multiple architectures. Since FreeBSD focuses on i386, and last I checked [not recently] this driver only worked on x86, such concerns aren't as big of a deal.
My guess is a lot of other driving power behind this fell away in the OSS camps, since things like LinuxAnt provide support for various closed-source drivers released for windows, via NDIS emulation. I can think of few things more evil from an ideological stance when it comes to Open Source.
Still, you can't argue with results. Moreover, most people don't care about implementation details, as long as they have something which works. Right or wrong, this ultimately detracts from support (be it developer time, donations, pressure on vendors).
Probably the best news I've heard recently in wifi driver land for OSS folks, is Intel backing a project for an open source linux driver for their centrino 802.11b chipset. Perhaps this will ultimately yield a usable driver in the way that their freebsdnic@intel.com yielded the em driver for gigE.
That said, vendors really should be providing OSS developers with documentation. Wither, Intel, Sun, Atheros or Broadcom - they're really the ones making things difficult. OpenBSD's attitude towards less than ideal workarounds has become more hard edged in the past couple of years, but it remains to be seen what ground will be made up for in this particular facet.
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By Alejandro Belluscio () baldusi@hotmail.com on mailto:baldusi@hotmail.com
By grey () on
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By Anonymous Coward () on
I'd personally love to be able to bridge with my Orinoco's like can be done with Prism based chipsets, but AFAIK this still isn't possible.
Orinoco support and non-bridging (NAT, Routing, etc.) works flawlessly though. Even AP mode...
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By Noryungi () on
'nuff said. I'll order my CDs when 3.5 comes out.
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By Anonymous Coward () on
Who does the graphics?
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By Miod Vallat () on
Visit http://www.tysemaka.com for a portfolio of his skills.
By Kim () on
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By Flynn () flynn@shaw.ca on mailto:flynn@shaw.ca
By Dan () on
A great song indeed!
But do we have a license for the song?
By Anonymous Coward () on
Anyone else having the same problem?
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By Alistair Sutton () alistair.sutton@ntlworld.com on mailto:alistair.sutton@ntlworld.com
It didn't do it all the time but it was worrying the first time it happened.
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By Bob Beck () beck@openbsd.org on mailto:beck@openbsd.org
and send content-length 0 on https pages with
keepalive set. Stupid stupid stupid.
For a full description of the problem, see
http://telanis.cns.ualberta.ca/
Workaround? I've turned off keepalive for IE6
to dodge microsoft's mess.
Here's a nickel kid - get yourself a real operating system.
-Bob
By zam4ever () anonymous@anonymous.org on http://www.geocities.com/zam4ever/
* The i386 8GB boot loader limitation has been removed.
This is one of the coolest feature that users are waiting for.
cheers
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By Anonymous Coward () on
But it's still an important bug fix.
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By Anonymous Coward () on
By Anonymous Coward () on
Most people deploying OBSD for real don't care where the OS wants to go on the single disk they install it to.
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By clvrmnky () on
Done, and done. Pre-ordered a nice CD set and t-shirt.
I've run a grungy 3.1 server for long enough. It's time for a hardware upgrade, anyway.
Now to go shopping for one of those mini-ITX systems...
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By sicko () on
i had the same idea about one year ago.
i bought a Chyang Fun CF-7989C3S with a VIA EPIA 5000 in May 2003. 200eur together.
after about 250 days of uptime (running openbsd 3.4), the powersupply blew up, also killing the board.
make sure you get some quality stuff.
luckily hdd and ram survived and no data lost cause it was only my internet gateway/router.
(unluckily i cant find the invoice anymore which i need for warranty ...)
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By Anonymous Coward () on
Sounds like a bathtub curve problem to me. Stuff breaks.
By Anonymous Coward () on
Theo and the Crew are on a mission and I love it. I love the way OpenBSD does things, makes me just admire OpenBSD all the more!
Here's drinking to OpenBSD... ;-)
Cheers all.
--
OpenBSD pf, pfsync and carp - The FREE and Open Source alternative to Cisco's PIX, HSRP and VRRP!
--
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By Anonymous Coward () on
I hope CARP can achieve wide adoption by other OSes without the IETF.
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By Dan () on
What happens if only one interfaceof a fw failes?
By Anonymous Coward () on
By yg () on http://www.openbsd.org/
Significant improvements to interface handling.
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By djm () on
By Anonymous Coward () on
Among other things, the aliases of an interface are now taken into account.
By j0rd () mits_rox@OHNOS.hotmail.com on http://j0rd.ath.cx/
I'm just curious what the community thinks about stuff like this. I won't use the CD's at all since i prefer installing from the floppy/ftp's, the only reason i would be buying them would be to support the project. So...
Should i buy them from the store? or
Should i buy them direct from OBSD?
I think it's best if i buy them from the store personally. Since (i assume) the reason they can offer them cheaper is because they buy 20+ of them at the 40% discount. I'd also like to support retailers that support openbsd. That's my two cents.
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By Anonymous Coward () on
Those years I do not upgrade via CD, or at all, I usually spring for a t-shirt. I always need new t-shirts, but I don't always need another CD set.
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By j0rd () on
/me would buy the 2.8 series t-shirts if they didn't have the uber-geeky "stay off my computer" tag line on them.
Ya i might be a geek, but i don't want to look like a fool ;P
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By Anonymous Coward () on
Everyone I see knows I'm a coder. The t-shirt I'm wearing right now has a line of perl on it. Clueless strangers can wonder all they want. I mean, does anyone actually give a shit, really, about t-shirt logos? I live in a high-tech university town, so people may as well get used to it.
It's really no different than wearing a t-shirt with a band logo. A badge of courage for a "High-Fidelity" geek is not much different than one for a computer geek.
Anyway, anything is better than mindlessly shilling for Nike or some other marginal, so-called "sports-wear" company. If I'm going to wear garments made by near-slave labour, I'm cetainly not going to get them from some gigantic corp that has no real product other than it's brand-name.
T-shirts I'll use. The CD-Roms are outdated almost immediately, in my experience. Once I install OBSD, I almost never go back to the CDs again. I will use the CVS sources for a union mount on /usr/src this time around, but I usually burn my own source CD anyway.
By GPS () GeorgePS@XMission.com on mailto:GeorgePS@XMission.com
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Nate