Contributed by jose on from the new-book dept.
"I can finally answer some of the questions you've been asking me for the last 12 months. Yes, I am writing a book about OpenBSD. It is titled The OpenBSD Gazetteer . The first edition will be available soon after the official release of OpenBSD 3.3, and I have plans for a new edition after every new release of OpenBSD. I will donate $1 for each copy sold to the OpenBSD project.Woot! This makes at least two OpenBSD books coming out in the near future!If you want to know more, bookmark this page ."
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By Benjamin Teugels () on
What you could do also is sell the OpenBSD CD set with the book and donate the money you get from selling the CD's to the OpenBSD project. Doing it that way, you can go on every 6 months.
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By Jacek Artymaik () on
By Jacek Artymiak () on
It will depend on the number of changes made to OpenBSD between consecutive releases of course.
As for selling CDs, I leave it to the OpenBSD Project. They can handle it much better than I can.
By Anonymous Coward () on
One book per release is a bit overkill. One book every 1-1,5 year (2-3 releases) would be a better number, I guess. Of course it depends on how big the changes in OpenBSD are.
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By Jacek Artymiak () on http://www.devguide.net/books/openbsdgazetteer/
upgrade process
Did you mean the process of upgrading the software or the process of upgrading the book contents?
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By Anonymous Coward () on
Great idea about the book by the way, best of luck.
By Anonymous Coward () on
The problem is in the business model. Print enough books to get a good quantity discount and you may eat your profits in unsold, out-of-date books. Print on order and you don't make very much. I wish him well, and if he keeps it up long enough to get a reasonable prediction of how big the market is, it would be great.
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By Jacek Artymiak () on http://www.devguide.net/books/openbsdgazetteer/
Thanks!
(Yes, I worked on the numbers ...)
By Sam Wilson () on
I also agree that it would be great if it were packaged with the CD.
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By Shane () on
Bundling a CD is a great idea though. I'd be much more inclined to buy the book/magazine/journal if it came with a CD. If I could get a CD with a collection of writing about that particular release, I'd probably buy a copy for each release.
By coldfire () rolick571@duq.edu on mailto:rolick571@duq.edu
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By Jacek Artymiak () on http://www.devguide.net/books/openbsdgazetteer/
man -t troff > troff.man.ps
Your OpenBSD box is a pretty powerful typesetter ...
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By Paul () ppruett@webengr.com on http://cocoavillage.us/
If you can make a pdf that views properly from
adobe acrobat, Office Depot print center and others can print and spiral bind from floppy/cdrom
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By Chris Hedemark () chris@yonderway.com on mailto:chris@yonderway.com
By Anonymous Coward () on
man: illegal option -- t
usage: man [-achw] [-C file] [-M path] [-m path] [-s section] [-S subsection] [section] title ...
usage: man -k keyword
usage: man -f command
By Anonymous Coward () on
groff -mdoc -Tps [man_src_file] > outfile.ps
but it doesn't go far enough. What if you want to print a book the size of the Oreilly books, not A4 or 8.5 x 11 paper? What if you want page numbers, and an index? "Well go learn {n,g,t}roff" Well, I don't want to. I _use_ OpenBSD to manage my network, I don't dabble in esoteric printing.
So Jacek, tell what you will print, and what it would cost for a man pages book for each type of binding and you will be flooded with orders. Of course, shipping charges may kill the concept....
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By Jacek Artymiak () on http://www.devguide.net/books/openbsdgazetteer/
Yes, for these seemingly simple changes you need to know troff, and you don't want to learn it, I assure you.
I'll do a test this week and see what numbers I can come up with. If it all adds up, I'll let you know via the OpenBSD Journal.
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By nuintari () on
http://nuintari.net/download/manpages-obsd-3.2.tar.gz
--Nui
By Jacek Artymiak () on http://www.devguide.net/books/openbsdgazetteer/
OK. I can do something like that, provided I don't get into copyright trouble. What type of binding would you preffer, glued (paperback), thermobinding (stronger glued spine), metal spiral (does not close itself when you place it on a desktop), or hardcover?
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By Anonymous Coward () on
:)
By Anonymous Coward () on
definetly something that can sit open on a desktop for reference.
By Anonymous Coward () on
:)
By hubertf () hubertf@netbsd.org on mailto:hubertf@netbsd.org
- Hubert
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By Anonymous Coward () on
ew...
By Jacek Artymiak () openbsd-gazetteer-ed-01@devguide.net on http://www.devguide.net/books/openbsdgazetteer/
OK, I did some rough estimates for printing OpenBSD man pages. The numbers are a little frightening ...
The whole documentation set would take approx. 6000 (six thousand) pages @ 8.5 x 11 in. It would be even longer @ 7 x 9 in. The costs of the whole set, including shipping (US) would be around 400 USD for the 8.5 x 11 format or 600 USD for the 7 x 9 format. Ouch! Now we know why the OpenBSD team does not sell them in print form ...
OK. Who wants one (email me)?
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By Anonymous Coward () on
It is too bad it costs that much, I remember the Wall of Binders for the VAX documentation. You would never use them for more than reference.
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By Jacek Artymiak () on
If I do offer OpenBSD manuals in printed format, I will split them into separate volumes. That will make them less expensive.
Binders... there's an idea...
By earxtacy () on
By Anonymous Coward () on
By Anonymous Coward () on
Want to describe to us what we can get in this book that isn't freely available (perhaps with a little hunting) on the net?
Convince me and I'll be your first customer.
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By Srebrenko Sehic () haver@insecure.dk on http://www.insecure.dk
Sure, you can find a lot of info online, but a book is always nice to have.
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By Anonymous Coward () on
I was referring to insights, tips and tricks, code, unix hacks, etc that might not be as readily available online (or as easily found).
By Anonymous Coward () on
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By Jacek Artymiak () on http://www.devguide.net/books/openbsdgazetteer/
Michael Lucas is writing another one.
By Michael Lucas () mwlucas at black helicopters dot org on mailto:mwlucas at black helicopters dot org
It's in typesetting right now, should be out just around 3.3.
May the best book win. :-)
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By Chris Hedemark () chris@yonderway.com on mailto:chris@yonderway.com
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By Michael Lucas () mwlucas at black helicopters dot org on www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/openbsd.html
I certainly hope that Jacek's book will be in stores!
By Jacek Artymiak () on http://www.devguide.net/books/openbsdgazetteer/
Mine will be self-published and will not be available in bookstores. I will sell it directly on the Internet.
If some some enterprising distributor/bookstore/user group wants to deal with bookstores, returns, and all that "fun", they are welcome to get in touch with me about volume discounts, but I have no plans to do it myself.
By Anonymous Coward () on
anyway, good luck with your book as well :-]
By Anonymous Coward () on
shiet, I'm getting both.
By Anonymous Coward () on
Can we get some more people to vote on the mozilla/openbsd bug here:
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124958
There are only 40 votes at present, which is pretty sad. You *do* have to register to vote, but it takes about 20 seconds, and the more votes we get the greater the chances of getting some support from the Mozilla coders.
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By Jacek Artymiak () on http://www.devguide.net/books/openbsdgazetteer/
I got an early warning of an upcoming Slashdot flood (Thank Brian ...)
If you can't reach the original, the mirror is here .
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By John () on
Even there is no information about publisher...
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By Jacek Artymiak () on
Would you like me to spend time making the site beautiful instead of writing the book?
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By John () on
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By Jacek Artymiak () on http://www.devguide.net/books/openbsdgazetteer/
By Anonymous Coward () on
Jacek Artymiak, the page is PERFECT.
By Anonymous Coward () on
Jacek Artymiak, the page is PERFECT.
By Chris () on
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http://www.vpnc.org/ietf-ipsec/00.ipsec/msg01639.html
By Peter () on pbw.us
By Anonymous Coward () on
Will you relate some historical facts, like NetBSD/OpenBSD, BSD 4.4, SystemV/BSD and licensing issues?
Will it be shipped with OpenBSD 3.3?
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By Anonymous Protester () root@127.0.0.1 on mailto:root@127.0.0.1
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Clearly so, since only morons troll.
By Jacek Artymiak () on http://www.devguide.net/books/openbsdgazetteer/
Audience: users new to OpenBSD, but not new to Unix.
History: yes.
Shipping with OpenBSD 3.3: no, I don't want to take money away from the OpenBSD project.
By Anonymous Protester () root@127.0.0.1 on mailto:root@127.0.0.1
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How to develop an OpenBSD Kernel Module.
How to move from Solaris/Digital Unix/Data General Unix/AIX/ to OpenBSD?
How to 'secure' your OS to raise it to a CMW environment (Compartimented mode workstation/B1)?
also,
Will it be available in pdf/ps?
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By Anonymous Coward () on
Example (nonworking) LKM skeletons are in base system
>Move?
Who knows, some apps move without problem some never will
By Anonymous Coward () on
maybe after having the book out for 3 OpenBSD releases, giving "The OpenBSD Gazetteer" the ability to mature and collect some errata(the goodies that don't change), would justify printing what looks to be a "Book".
I beg, do not let costs keep you from disseminating information for long periods of time. that is not to mean, publish no matter the costs; it means publish the work, regardless of what it looks like as long as the ink stays on the pages, and the paper does not fall apart in months time. :) pretty colors and pictures can be left out. black and white does the job just fine and keeps my concentration at its peek.
the ability to purchase a digital copy at reduced cost, enabling the same amount of profit, or more, would be ideal. given that I'm allowed to make copies for myself at the local copy place. :)
ACTUALLY, never mind the "digital copy" idea, I can not see "stapled copies" being less profitable than digital copies.
By Anonymous Coward () on
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By Jacek Artymiak () on http://www.devguide.net/books/openbsdgazetteer/
No.
No, it doesn't contradict the OpenBSD project.
I will write for free if you will you pay my bills. How's that?
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By Jacek Artymiak () on
I have an even better idea. You write your book and distribute it as you wish, and I will distribute mine as I wish. How's that for a fair deal?
By Anonymous Coward () on
is not a religion that dictates our every
economic and social decision.
Theo only sells support for OpenBSD? I wonder
what those CDs are @
http://www.openbsd.org/orders.html ?
Maybe you should buy the book, seeing as its
obvious you've never thought to buy the CD.
btw, whats wrong with making money, especially
after investing the effort Jacek has put into
it?
By BlaJo () on
You allready have some estimates about price?
How will we be able tu pay you?
Best wishes with bookproject!
br
BlaJo
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By Jacek Artymiak () on http://www.devguide.net/books/openbsdgazetteer/ind
You will be able to pay on-line.